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The Decline and Fall of American Nationhood
An Essay on Post 2nd Civil War America by Jeremy Bentham

Jeremy wrote this essay at my request, after I finally accepted that there is going to be a shooting civil war in America and could not, in the slightest, imagine what the resulting map would look like.

Yes, what will post-America America look like? Where will the borders be drawn? That is the question to which I am eagerly seeking the answer. Both from the standpoint of a scholarly historical interest and in the interest of self-preservation.

Will the U.S.A split up geographically, politically (red vs. blue), demographically (according to race, ethnicity and/or religion) or all of the above? Probably all of those elements will factor into the break up. In political/socio-economic terms it appears roughly half the people in America want to live in a country with a capitalist free-market economy and the other half want to live in a country with a socialist centrally planned economy. Roughly half the people love the country they live in and the other half hates it, hates it with a passion. Half of America doesn’t want democracy or free elections anymore, they want total control. They want to have everything their way and don’t want to give their political opposition a say in anything. Both sides have come to feel their very existence is threatened by the other. On top of everything else America is bankrupt, the brokest country in history. The U.S. Federal Government alone is 20 trillion dollars in debt. How can that possibly have a good ending?

“Political polarization is a direct result of the same mechanism producing micro-aggressions and trigger warnings. The left cannot face reality, and that trait is increasing in scale and scope. On the other side, reality is getting worse, and that is driving conservatives to want everyone to face it so we can right this ship before it sinks. Combined, you have political polarization.”

– Anonymous Conservative 08/27/2016

“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.”

-Karl Marx

“Definition of a Socialist: Someone who wants everything you have...except your job.”

-John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.) Brisbane, Australia, Dissecting Leftism BlogSpot.

“So an essential feature of Leftism is that they think they have the right to tell other people what to do.”

-John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.) Brisbane, Australia, Dissecting Leftism BlogSpot.

"It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state."

- Milton Friedman, American Economist, 1912-2006

“In political conflicts, the goal is not to refute your opponent’s argument, but to wipe him from the face of the earth.”

– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

“The champions of socialism call themselves progressives, but they recommend a system which is characterized by rigid observance of routine and by a resistance to every kind of improvement. They call themselves liberals, but they are intent upon abolishing liberty. They call themselves democrats, but they yearn for dictatorship. They call themselves revolutionaries, but they want to make the government omnipotent. They promise the blessings of the Garden of Eden, but they plan to transform the world into a gigantic post office. Every man but a subordinate clerk in a bureau. What an alluring utopia! What a noble cause to fight!

-Ludwig Von Mises, From “Bureaucracy” by Ludwig von Mises (1944)

“The most serious dangers for American freedom and the American way of life do not come from without.”

-Ludwig Von Mises

The geographic lines of demarcation on these sentiments are anything but clear. So while America is as politically polarized as it was following the 1860 Presidential election, the situation today is nowhere near as well-defined geographically as it was back then. The split is not exclusively regional; not just a north versus south thing now. Nowadays we have capitalists and socialists, pro-Trumpers and anti-Trumpers scattered all over the country. One group or another may be the majority in any given state, but in terms of sheer numbers there are probably more capitalists/patriots in New York state than there are in Iowa and as many socialists/globalists in Texas as there are in Minnesota. Plus the Left has successfully divided the country into different ethnic identity groups who will have their own agendas. Also never forget that the Left controls the media megaphone which always serves to make it look as if their numbers are greater than they truly are and that they have more support among the populace than they really do (as the 2016 election exposed to the light).

The Spanish Civil War, the Jugoslav succession wars, and Bleeding Kansas all come to mind as the most probable models for a break-up of the U.S.A., with features of the Thirty Years War, the German Peasants’ Revolt, Shay’s Rebellion, John Brown’s Raid, Nat Turner’s Rebellion, Waco, the race riots of the 1960’s and many other conflicts liberally added to the mix.

Therefore all one can imagine is that when the breakup occurs in earnest there will be an incredible chaotic sorting out period as everyone seeks to find their place under the sun, a place of safety and stability. It will be a sorting out such as the civilized world has likely not seen since the ‘Volkswanderung’, the Great Migration of the Peoples, millennia ago. Certainly modern technology will accelerate this migration. It will seem all the more violent and chaotic to us simply because the news media will tell us about it each and every day. We will be made immediately aware of events that occur thousands of miles away, Often in ‘real time’. Something that didn’t burden people in the past when they usually found out about great events weeks or even months after the fact. This is both beneficial and pernicious since on the one hand we are now warned about life-threatening weather, like hurricanes, tornadoes and blizzards, in plenty of time to take precautions and save our lives. On the other hand though people in the past weren’t forced to fret and worry about things that didn’t concern them or impact their life just because some talking head in a box told them they should (you WILL be made to care!). The Internet allows us to talk directly to people on the other side of the world at low cost, which will make our awareness even more personal, and disturbing. It will probably be a crap shoot as to what news of events and trends the powers-that-be decide is in their interest to broadcast and publicize and which news is in their interest to ignore and/or suppress, whether its good news or bad. But government is no longer able to control ALL news and opinion in the 21st Century.

Which states or parts of states will make up the rump state U.S.A as well as which states or parts of states will go to make up the various successor republics will likely depend on who first instigated succession, the Left or the Right. I had initially imagined that the Right, the American patriots, would move for succession because they would eventually become weary and provoked beyond endurance by the Globalist Left’s PC bullying, governing policy of Anarcho-Tyranny and low-intensity war of cultural genocide being waged against them. However with the election of God-Emperor Trump the roles have become reversed and now it is the Globalist/Leftist/SJWs agitating for succession. Particularly so in California it seems. The election of Trump was clearly an overwhelming shock to the systems of the Globalist SJW, a violation of expectation, a betrayal, such disappointing news to them such that it is hard to imagine a fitting descriptive analogy for it. Perhaps like suddenly learning unequivocally they had no possibility for a better future or that their ‘immortal souls’ would NOT go ‘to a better place’ after they died.

“My young son asked me what happens after we die. I told him we get buried under a bunch of dirt and worms eat our bodies. I guess I should have told him the truth - that most of us go to Hell and burn eternally - but I didn't want to upset him.”

- Jack Handy, ‘Deep Thoughts’

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”

– Matthew 25:41 (NIV)

Living in their experiential urban and campus bubbles like they do it was a shock to the social justice warriors (SJW) fragile psyches to discover that at least half of the country does not believe as they do, does not admire them and does look to them for direction and guidance. Of course being SJW they are unable to reflect on why their message failed to sell in the red states and/or evaluate why Crooked Hillary was such a poor candidate. Instead they did what they always do: they doubled down on their folly and imagined they could bully their opponents into submission by attacking them ad hominem, calling them ‘stupid’, denouncing them as ‘Nazis’ and threatening them with physical violence.

“Though liberals do a great deal of talking about hearing other points of view, it sometimes shocks them to learn that there are other points of view.”

-William F. Buckley JR., Up from Liberalism (1959)

Also, being SJW, they project, so they imagine Trump is going to persecute them and herd them all into prison camps. Just like they plan to do to American patriots once they solidify control of the country. On election night it suddenly occurred to the SJW that if Trump supporters hate the SJW as much as the SJW hate Trump supporters then ‘they’, the SJW, were in serious trouble! So they freaked out, just like we all witnessed, and they still haven’t calmed down.

“Is it any wonder that, once they harbor sufficient power, they inevitably start killing people? For all that they constantly scream about fairness and justice, they grant no mercy and they give no quarter.”

– Vox Day

So now in the first year of the Trump Administration SJW make up the ranks of a major secessionist movement and are agitating to break away from the rest of this stupid, evil, racist country full of people who don’t share their ‘values’. It appears California would fragment into separate polities if it came to succession. Northern California would tell the Lefties in SoCal to go their own way and would remain in the union as a separate state if it came to it.

Being the jingoistic myrmidon that I am, I will of course find it sad to see the country I love, the United States of America, go away. However the U.S.A. I grew up in and pledged to defend is fast disappearing. At the same time the society I see around me is becoming unrecognizable; ever more alien, repulsive and threatening to my freedom and safety by the day. Our children are being indoctrinated in the schools and through the entertainment media to hate America, hate their own people (if they are white) and despise their elders. So the passing of America is just a reality we patriots will have to accept. We will just have to prepare ourselves to deal with what must come, as hateful a prospect as it appears to be to us now. Like the death of an elderly relative who has been ill and wasting away for a long time, when death finally arrives then it comes as a blessing.

It won’t be quite as sad to see the U.S.A. go away if we can succeed in making the PC madness, Anarcho-Tyranny, white genocide and irrational hatred for normality of the Globo-homo Left go away with it. If we can manage to free ourselves of Leftist sabotage it’s difficult to see how we could NOT build a better society.

So when the breakup hits it will be an exciting time to be alive! Full of danger and opportunity alike. Almost like a return to America’s Frontier days. As a bonus, I am inclined to think that all the inveterate America haters and Leftist rabbit people are going to experience many more ‘violations of expectation’ in the post-America America. It'll serve them right. No defeatism here. We will endure! We will prevail!

Anyway James, I do not profess to foresee precisely what ‘not America’ will look like. At the present time anything I come with will be mostly speculation and conjecture based on little concrete information. As time passes and events unfold it become more clear which way things will break. I believe that even if he doesn’t succeed in saving the country God-Emperor Trump is at least buying American patriots much needed time to prepare for whatever happens. We will be in a more advantageous position to salvage good and useful things from the wreck of America and use them to build a new country.

Nevertheless, there ARE a few events, trends or issues that we can predict with certitude will arise from the dissolution of the Republic:

1.The event that triggers the breakup will likely be some widespread calamity, some extremely traumatic event that effects the entire country, like an economic collapse, a constitutional crisis or losing a war with a foreign country. Such that the American people will lose faith completely with the old order of things and be willing to bet their futures on something entirely new and different.

2.The end of ‘white guilt’. So-called ‘white guilt’ will end as the motivation and justification for apologist public policies toward black dysfunction. I think it safe to say that about the time the breakup occurs the various non-black peoples in America will all reach peak negro-fatigue. Some of the non-black peoples, such as the Hispanics and the Asians, have never been subject to feelings of guilt over slavery and racial segregation in the first place and are as oppressed by violent blacks as anybody else. It will occur to all the non-black majorities in the new areas that Leftist blacks will NEVER be satisfied with what they get. Thus they will see that as a practical matter the fewer blacks they have living among them the less time, energy and public money they will need to spend on racial grievance issues. The less crime and violence they will suffer too. ‘Diversity’ will be seen for the Leftist scam that it is. All many of these new republics will have to do is abolish the welfare nanny state systems within their new jurisdiction, then most blacks will leave of their own accord. Just as they came for the generous welfare benefits, they will leave when the welfare disappears and head for the remaining Leftist ruled ‘sanctuary states’.

What we have learned in the 54 years since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted is that even when you remove the putative social obstacles for economic success from out of their way blacks in the aggregate are still unable to prosper. Not unless they are heavily subsidized by the government. For whites to prosper they just need to be left alone. It’s safe to say that once the breakup occurs, most of the tax money to pay for these social engineering subsidies and all of the other nanny state free stuff will disappear. So those sanctuary states may not be welcoming places for very long. What then? What will happen to the blacks? Which of the new countries will accept them? Would African-Americans be able to run a country of their own?

3.Likewise peak Muslim-fatigue will hit the populations of post America. They will figure out that the fewer Muslims you have living among you the less Muslim terrorism you will have and respond accordingly. They will have to go back.

4.There will be more walls built along the new borders, especially those of the solvent and stable ‘red state’ republics. The barriers will be erected to keep out the flood of starving refugees from the debt-ridden socialist blue state republics that will quickly come to resemble Venezuela. That is to say authoritarian, corrupt and impoverished third-world style ‘banana republics’ structured to keep most of the people poor and dependent on government largesse while maintaining a small group of elitists in power. There will be wide-spread famine and scarcity of commodities across the continent as production and trade is interrupted by social chaos, conflict and the disappearance of trust (people will want to be paid cash first before they deliver anything).

5.During the first half century or so of this new order there will be wars between and among the new North American countries to realign borders, seize control of vital resources and for control of vital lines of communication, like rivers and sea ports. Some of the wars will be to settle scores over old grudges, much like the 1969 'Soccer War’ between El Salvador and Honduras. 'Non-State insurgents’ and criminal gangs will launch cross border raids in many regions for years to come following the breakup. Low-intensity wars will continue to be fought to suppress drug smuggling and human trafficking. The ‘war on drugs’ will continue. It will come to look more like a real shooting war, rather than just a politicized and bogus ‘moral equivalent of war’. Instead of seeking to merely apprehend the drug smugglers and put them on trial, the governments involved will endeavor to persevere to destroy them, and their will to smuggle. Since governments are entering into the ‘soft drug’ (marijuana and such) trade themselves in increasing numbers in order to gain much needed operating revenue, they will deal harshly with illegal competitors in soft drugs and with the smugglers of those dangerous drugs the governments choose to continue to prohibit. No more Mister Nice Guy.

6.The new North American republics will eventually have to become prepared to fight wars to resist exploitation and even recolonization by Old World powers. They may enter into military alliances with overseas powers against their New World neighbors.

7.Without the U.S. Navy controlling the sea lines of communication the old nuisance of piracy and raids on coastal areas will likely return. Will the navy of one of the successor states take over the role of a defunct USN? Will there instead be anarchy on the high seas?

8.Who will control the former U.S.A.’s nukes? Nuclear weapons will continue to be the ultimate guarantor of a nation’s sovereignty. Thus more and more countries will develop nuclear missiles as the Pax Americana gets tossed into the dustbin of history and instability and the threat of military aggression returns to the world. Therefore there will likely be a nuclear war someplace in the world before the end of the century.

9.And last, what about the Jews? Will they continue to meddle in American affairs after the dissolution or will they finally all hightail it for Israel and mind their own kosher knitting for a change? “Next year in Jerusalem”, as they used to pray. Now there is no excuse for not going there. Especially thanks to God-Emperor Trump.

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BobJanuary 22, 2018 2:15 AM UTC

Local politics is a way of fighting the System, exploiting its weaknesses and avoiding its strengths. Numerous, nimble, enterprising and variegated targets are difficult prey, and the cost of eradication exorbitant. The lion weakened by fleas.
Jeremy BenthamJanuary 21, 2018 5:24 PM UTC

Always remember that elections have consequences. Often lasting ones. The last national election did and the one coming up this year certainly will as well. You can say it’s a crooked game and it is, nevertheless this country is still a de jure representative democracy, so if you don’t vote, if you don’t play the game, YOU get played. You have to give the SJW/Democrats credit for never giving up. They never quit pushing. Even when they lose an election they raise such a fuss (with the ever present aid of their accomplices in the media, such that it’s hard to really tell who is controlling who now) and intimidate the Republicans so much that they end up getting half of what they want anyway. Up until now that is, and it’s driving them crazy. I’ve seen that civics lesson played out again and again in many different venues: the busybodies got their way simply because they wanted it more and showed up when it came time to vote on it. Like the man said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Jeremy BenthamJanuary 21, 2018 3:05 PM UTC

Good point about the 4th Generation Warfare PR. The fact is American inner cities have been a 4GW battleground since the mid 1960’s. Urban minority criminals regard themselves as revolutionaries in the main resisting oppression by capitalist white society (the ‘Man’), rather than anti-social lawbreakers. Indeed, it is Marxist doctrine that crime is the product of an unjust society, one in which wealth is unevenly distributed. Redistribute the wealth fairly and crime ends. Right? Right! That is why our court system is eager to excuse the trespasses of oppressed minority offenders. They are really POWs rather than crooks and it is the duty of the SJW who dominate our criminal justice system to return those 4GW proxy fighters to the fight as soon as possible. Anyway thanks to Mr. Lind et al we now have a handy term for the never-ending insurgency in our cities. Of course it has evolved into a nationwide 4GW/low-intensity conflict/cold civil war/Anarcho-tyranny waged by the Globalist Left against white American patriots through their minority proxy fighters, SJW, Antifa, the Deep State and others. I will expound on that in another missive.

Good for you PR for wanting to get involved with the New California movement. The principal battleground is still in the arena of politics. Like Mao said, “Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed.” One of the reasons the country is falling apart is that patriots ceded too much key political terrain to the SJW by not getting involved. The patriots have been losing by forfeit as much as anything else. So now the Left gets to boss the patriots around and use the law to harass them and the patriots are left wondering how it all happened. Yes, I know the Leftist SJW are natural busybodies and meddlers because they want to see everything changed, the patriots being conservatives and traditionalists just want to be left alone. But that is not going to happen. Patriots must learn to be activist and push back if they want to have any hope of holding on to what is theirs. Now keep in mind politics is not James’ bailiwick. He has articulated his distaste for it and said he wants no part of it more than once. But that puts no restriction on the rest of us.
anonymousJanuary 20, 2018 11:06 PM UTC

I remember the maps of the voting in the last presidential election revealed a distinctly urban(Hillary)/rural(Trump)split. I also recall what Pearl S. Buck alleged happened in China when the rich got too rich - the poor go tear down their houses and take their stuff. I heard that urban/rural was similar to the last Spanish civil war. I don't see how we can 'take their stuff' anymore and I am guessing that drones may have a significant impact. I predict this division never actually goes "hot," but suppose it does. Given the potential for an urban/rural split, what are some rural paths to victory?
BobJanuary 19, 2018 11:04 PM UTC

I fail to see Muslims pose an existential threat to the USA. Terrorism as portrayed on MSM - especially in the US but also in Europe - to me is fake, Hollywood news written for traitorous elements of government and its moneyed co-conspirators.

Ethnic displacement by peoples of Muslim faith is certainly a reality in Europe but the enablers aren't Muslims (see Kalergi Plan). In the same fashion, the Mexican presence in the US hasn't been engineered by Mexicans, but by activists like Emanuel Celler and Jacob Javits.

This might be of interest:
PRJanuary 19, 2018 12:42 AM UTC

Here in the Golden (Shower) State, there are several secessionist movements afoot. One is CalExit: liberals with the support of the state government want to leave the union. This represents about a third of the state. Another is the State of Jefferson: Northern California counties wanting to leave the state and form their own. A third is the "New California" movement representing most of the counties in California. This is the movement I prefer. The numbers and demographics are outlined on the website. I plan on volunteering.

Bill Lind says that the coming break up will be a 4GW-style war where the former US will resemble France in teh pre-nation era of the 14th century. I am inclined to believe this. There are numerous 4GW forces already waging low-intensity warfare in the US now: Islamists, drug cartels, street gangs, BLM, SJWs to name a few. This will only increase as EVERY group feels the need for belonging and identity. The good news is that wars are won on the moral and strategic levels. Combat is the last recourse after all other options have been tried. Americans are simply too lazy and complacent to realize where they are in history thus I believe things will get worse before they get better. Our Constitution is also for a moral and religious people.
Sam J.January 18, 2018 11:16 PM UTC

It's a real question if Trump was not just part of the plan all along. What he says, and he talks a good game, is not important to what he does and he has done next to nothing.

The good thing about the Civil war is all the hot babes will see very quickly that the blue States are a nightmare and will flee as fast as possible to the Red States. The red haired blimpy girls will stay in the blue States.

Hopefully the Jew will all be gone so we can build over again without their continual interference.