Thanks on situational awareness and Sicario
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Tue, Dec 4, 7:28 PM (10 days ago)
You’re welcome James. Great article in response, thanks.
Glad you liked Sicario.
Feel free to use my comments below but I thought I should email instead because some I’m not sure about spoilers:
Thanks, good review. Your idea that aspects of it might have been made to get past a type of censor, and comparing that to the Iliad; i thought that very interesting and educational. Like, who is the audience? Well, whoever owns the stage is one part of the audience. The guys making it, the guys reviewing, gals too —all part of the audience. And so on.
Also, just like you noted, that sell, the opening stuff, might have killed it for me but for the fact I’d bought the DVD and so I was kinda pre-invested. This was like two years ago.
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On the first viewing, I thought I got why Kate had scruples about some of their actions. But each time I watch it again —like 4 times now*— I wonder more and more what she was worried about. I think it was less about her specific examination of conscience and its results and more that the whole situation amped her up to conduct that examination —and that she’s a little bitter that she didn’t see it coming; didn’t anticipate that she’d reach a point where she’d have to say, ‘ok, I’m stopping here; my role is done; you do you and it’s better I not see what’s up the road. Better for you, better for me, better for everybody.’ Like, this is my responsibility, I’ve met it. That’s your responsibility, I don’t want it.
Which in a way maybe makes ‘the sell’ even more important because her ... role over-reach(?) (“I’ve got to know”) and subsequent emotional response and worry ties right back to a basically revolutionary, radical, but nevertheless current PC rule: that women should be on the front lines too, with men. No, not just on the front lines. Officers. No, not just officers, but THE officer, the leader in the sense of having or taking ultimate legal and moral responsibility.
Both this and the sequel are thus very reactionary in offering the message of, ‘nah, that ain’t gonna work.’
I also think there’s an element of the women being all ‘Yes I want the responsibility, yes I understand how the world works and gets ugly. I’m not naive I’m worldly you’re not the boss of me just because you’re a guy.’ But then when the shit hits the fan cracking back to ‘You take responsibility this is your fault this is on you (subtext please please explicitly and unequivocally relieve me of responsibility).’ But this is probably me partly projecting and venting my own unfortunate experiences working with certain women.
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*Also, did you see it on TV or DVD or whatever? Because the TV version made a couple of edits. Nothing major, just a few little snips that had a bit of ... earthiness or roughness; like soldierly banter. Man talk. Really maybe only two minutes. And it’s not like other shows (e.g. The Duece on HBO and every other show on Netflix) aren’t showing the equivalent of 1970’s soft prom scenes 24/7. But healthy team joshing they cut. Like two minutes more of commercials makes that much of a difference.
Anyway, thanks again.
-CC
The cutting of masculine interaction of positive strain makes sense in a world where the media pumps porn into our children at maximum velocity. Keeping in mind that the media, including Hollywood funders, are the priesthood and bishops and cardinals of the New World Order, we have to look to movie makers who practice subterfuge like the composer of Beowulf, who made an adventurer a hero and a prince a villain in a poem likely funded by a prince.
Benecio Del Toro and Josh Brolin are great in the first movie and I heard that the sequel was excellent as well, from a military man who told me that the gunplay was fairly realistic. What he told me was that firearms violence in movies is almost always played down and made less extensive and messy as it really is in military and paramilitary situations, for whatever reasons Hollywood has.
In case our readers are interested the trailers are linked below.
Shelters for the Self
The Captured Diary of Petty Officer Second Class Koyama
Apropos of male banter and lack thereof in movies, "The Kill List" to me did a good job of portraying male comradeship without mawkishness. The women are just foils for the male characters.
youtube.com/watch?v=bQDPp5hxFZQ
Without wishing to derail the thread, a recent viewing of Zimmerman's 1973 classic "The Day of the Jackal" brought it home to me just how feminized our culture has become in just two generations.
I must check this movie out. Thanks, Bob.
Ignore the Turkish sub-titles:
ok.ru/video/33836501726