“Highly recommend one of my favorite Joe Rogan episodes with one Randall Carlson, who is a geological explorer and renegade scholar, they go into climate history, oxygen isotopes in Greenland ice cores and such. He points out and they talk some about this giant extinction event as well—must see!”
-Guest
17,000 Miles from Oblivion in 2013?
Three years ago we almost got smeared by an asteroid, but I believe the primates in charge were chattering about something much more local.
According to Randall Carlson ‘A Lot of the Human Story [is] Missing’
The length, breadth and depth of this discussion brings out the best in Joe Rogan, and introduces us to a man who’s mentally in the place of science-fiction authors of 50-75 years ago, a place in the mind from which speculative authors have retreated like beaten children from a candy dish.
Randall makes the best argument for the type of sunken civilization or “Atlantean” or “pre-Atlantean” setting that Robert E. Howard and other writers of his period believed rather firmly in, but which fell out of favor with science after WWII. Randall also brings up the fact that global cooling is more likely—indeed imminent—than the much discussed “global warming,” that dominates the current climate change discussion.
Thanks for the Guest who suggested this piece. I will be checking out the Graham Hancock shows as well.
I bet I'll enjoy listening to this. I think science actually gets it wrong. They are mostly non-catastrophic thinking or if something catastrophic happened it was millions of years ago. I don't believe this. I believe in punctuated equilibrium. There's a huge amount of evidence that this isn't so. In Montana there were huge floods. Massive ice dams.
glaciallakemissoula.org
In between Bolivia and Peru there's a lake (Lake Titicaca) that has salt water crustaceans in it but it's thousands of feet up in the mountain and there appears to be sea level docks. If a area can be thrust up thousands of feet then it's no stretch that another area can go down. I believe the mid-Atlantic ridge is such an area. To my knowledge there's no direct link between ancient Man and Cro-Magnon. Cro-Magnon just seems to pop up and be in Western Europe in mass. There were lots of red and blond haired people lived on the Canary Islands, part of the mid-Atlantic chain, that had been there for???? Who knows how long. The simplest solution is that they came from the sunken mid-Atlantic ridge.
There's a guy who wrote books about the coming Ice Age and another book called "Magnetic Reversals & Evolutionary Leaps" that impressed me a lot. He says that during the times when ice ages come and go the magnetic field of Earth decays significantly and either reverses or moves before returning to it's original place. These times correspond to big massive volcanic eruptions and possibly large large scale upheaval and sinking of land masses. (unfortunately the Earth's magnetic field is falling and the pole is moving faster than any time we've recorded right now)
iceagenow.info/category/another-book-by-this-author
So maybe at the end of the ice age the mid-Atlantic ridge starts sinking fast. A few Cro-Magnon escape to Western Europe and West Africa. They of course get into fights with the Neanderthals. Neanderthals lose.
I'm about 26 minutes into the video and it corresponds to exactly the same thing I'm talking about.
The data for Carlsons graph is from the second Greenland Ice Sheet Project, short GISP2, which in 1993, after half a decade of drilling penetrated through the ice sheet even 5 feet into bedrock, recovering an ice core 9,935 ft (or 3,029m) in depth, the deepest ice core recovered in the world at the time (for comparison, the Empire State Building is 1,414 ft (or 431m)).
The relative oxygen and hydrogen isotope ratios in those ice cores are a proxy for temperature change adjacent to the ice mass, providing a glimpse back in time. And show, if nothing else, constant natural fluctuation over eons, especially before the industrial revolution! It was all Roman Warm Period, Medieval Warm Period, Big Ice Age, Little Ice Age...
Until the relative climate stability of the 20th & 21st century, that's why the current hysteria is so ironic.
And there is more! His second appearance:
Joe Rogan Experience #606 - Randall Carlson
youtube.com/watch?v=G0Cp7DrvNLQ
And third, together with said Graham Hancock:
Joe Rogan Experience #725 - Graham Hancock & Randall Carlson
youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8
And related, paraphrased and cobbled together from:
The Vancouver Daily Post - Apr 9, 1866
news.google.com/newspapers?nid=84&dat=18660409&id=r8UHAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cDUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2976,7610122
and the Brethren's Family Almanac of 1887:
archive.org/details/brethrensfamilya1887unse
"In the year 401 the Black Sea was entirely frozen over. The Danube was frozen over in 462 so that a whole army crossed the ice. In 763 the Straits of Dardanelles froze over, and snow in some places lay fifty feet high. In 832 the great rivers of Europe, the Danube, the Elbe etc. were frozen so hard as to bear heavy wagons for a month. In 860, the Adriatic sea was frozen and Carriages crossed the Gulf of Venice, the cold was so intense that cattle froze to death in their stalls. The Mediterranean Sea was so thickly frozen over that it was passable for horses and merchandise was carried across it on the ice.
In 991, everything was frozen, crops entirely failed, famine and pestilence closed the year. In 1067, most of the travelers in Germany were frozen to death on the roads. The cold was so severe throughout Europe as to split whole forests of oak trees by the action of the frost with a loud report and immense noise. In 1132, the river Po was frozen from Cremona all the way to the Adriatic Sea. In 1237, the Danube was frozen to the bottom and remained long in that state, snow was so deep in Austria that houses were entirely buried beneath it.
In 1308, crops failed in Scotland, and such a famine ensued that the poor were reduced to feed on grass, and many perished miserably in the fields. In 1317, the crops wholly failed in Germany; and wheat, which some years before sold in England at 6p the quarter rose to £2. In 1344 all the rivers in Italy were frozen over. In 1368, wine burst in the casks containing it, the wine distributed to soldiers had to be cut with hatchets. In 1450, a wolf pack killed forty people in Paris during an uncommonly severe winter.
In 1683 it was excessively cold, coaches drove along the Thames, the ice of which was eleven inches thick.
In 1690 Scotland was visited with an awful snowstorm, which lasted thirteen days and nights, during which time nine-tenths of the sheep were frozen to death, and many shepherds lost their lives."
It was horrible, the poor Scotsman had nothing to screw for a whole season.
"In 1692 wolves came into Vienna, and attacked men and women, owing again to the intense cold and their hunger. In 1709, occurred what was the long called the cold winter, when the frost penetrated three yards into the earth. In 1744, the strongest ale in England, exposed to the air, was covered in less than fifteen minutes with ice an eight of an inch thick. In 1814 there was a fair on the frozen river Thames."
Thank god for global warming, i hope, nay pray, that it's real, because who would want to live in a world without warm sheep and ale!
I saw this video you posted and it's excellent. This led to a Graham Hancock video where he talks about Cortez. A truly miraculous story. You would really like to hear this.
youtube.com/watch?v=1cbnCrHwVSg
It's so strange that thousands of year old proficiency's of the Aztecs described Men exactly like Cortez and that he arrived at exactly the time the proficiency's said he would appear.
I double the recommendation of the video.
Joe Rogan Experience #725 - Graham Hancock & Randall Carlson
youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8
It's very good.
Here's another good video that talks about ancient civilizations that are gone.
Ancient Canals Builders in the Americas
youtube.com/watch?v=8QPL-vvH534
The internal coastal waterway goes almost all the way up the North American continent. WTF? Where did it come from?
I think the Melonheads built it. I don't care for the Melonheads though. I think they're the ones who started all the human sacrifice in the Americas and after they died out the Aztecs just continued the trend. Maybe their complete disregard for average Humans life is why they died out. Same as the Aztecs. As soon as anyone had a chance they over threw these bloody bastards.
One more link that has a lot on the inner coastal waterway and ancient canals.
earthepochs.blogspot.com/2014/09/2014-ancient-canal-builders-john-m.html