This geneticist’s work, and the work of his colleagues, as explained by him in his heavily-accented English, is not as clear cut a debunking of the Out of Africa dogma as indicated by the title and the line of questioning. I have read a few books and a couple dozen articles on the subject and did my best to listen closely to the main line of inquiry which does not begin until 40 minutes in.
It seems that one cannot get research grants in this field unless agreeing to promote the idea that we all, every one of us ultimately have a black African mother and father.
Anatole does not contradict the matrilineal theory that there is a common mother. He is firm on their being only one trunk to the family tree. However, he describes a tree that has only two main branches, Black Africans and everybody else.
He states that there was a mutual paternal ancestor for all non-African humans, who could have lived anywhere, from North Africa throughout Eurasia. This statement fits with the “Bottleneck” genetic event caused by the Toba Super eruption 74,000 years ago. There has been no convincing evidence that the only humans who survived this event were in Africa. Quite the opposite, the Neanderthals survived it in Eurasia, so why wouldn’t some of the modern humans who had already moved into their space have survived?
Ironically, his minority view of the DNA trail might be an avenue towards explaining the extreme dysfunction of all black African nations and majority populations when compared with others. Most people have no idea that most Africans were Capoid [not black] and that they ruled most of Africa for tens of thousands of years, and fell behind the Blacks [who always had a hard time dealing with them in war] only after the Malaysians, who settled in Madagascar, introduced yam farming and iron working, which enabled them to transform enough of the natural habitat for their own use, similarly to the Americans slaughtering the wild life and leveling the forests of America to deny the Indians sustenance.
“We choose our own,” and “there is no homeland,” are his most telling and valuable remarks which he supports with various examples. He believes that the current claim among geneticists that there will be only one race of humans assumes an unlikely and uncharacteristic level of promiscuity. Although he does not state it, scientists have fallen into the trap of relating us to Bonobos and assuming under ideal conditions we will just breed indiscriminately. However, as Anatole points out, most people, from most cultures choose to mate with their own kind and that even in the U.S. less than 1% of the population are breeding outside of their race, which seems to indicate a human propensity to avoid mono-cropping ourselves into one vulnerably indistinct population.
Anatole makes it clear that the search for a stable chunk of geographic homeland is a fool’s errand, that peoples moved much throughout history. His does place the Arуans migrating out of Southern Siberia at 24,000 years ago, but who knows where they came from, and they certainly did not share our gardener’s obsession with bounded territory.
Anatole’s discussion of “the twenty tribes” and the r1a r1b tribes is fascinating, and he admirably avoided being baited into supporting the lockstep racial notions of the interviewer, while still describing why he thinks PC science is wrong.
“I know my ancestors for 14 generations down,” he reminds us Americans, that intact cultures have a much deeper history than our orphan matrix.
Finally, his admonition that upper caste Arуans, who settled in India, maintained their genome to 72% for over 3,000 years, through strict marriage traditions, falls into agreement with the amateur interviewer’s perspective, while slipping right by her. He also points out that matrilineal markers proliferate, not through female choice, but through women historically and prehistorically being trafficked as booty.
This is a fascinating area. I am very interested in the Ainu of Northern Japan, the Basque’s and the Capoids, and would like to see more research in these areas.
He: Gilgamesh: Into the Face of Time
I was just reading this the other:
Re-Examining the “Out of Africa” Theory and the Origin of
Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy
file.scirp.org/pdf/AA20120200004_71596882.pdf
ABSTRACT
Seven thousand five hundred fifty-six (7556) haplotypes of 46 subclades in 17 major haplogroups were considered in terms of their base (ancestral) haplotypes and timespans to their common ancestors, for the purposes of designing of time-balanced haplogroup tree. It was found that African haplogroup A (originated 132,000 ± 12,000 years before present) is very remote time-wise from all other haplogroups, which have a separate common ancestor, named β-haplogroup, and originated 64,000 ± 6000 ybp. It includes a family of Europeoid (Caucasoid) haplogroups from F through T that originated 58,000 ± 5000 ybp. A downstream common ancestor for haplogroup A and β-haplogroup, coined the α-haplogroup emerged 160,000 ± 12,000 ybp. A territorial origin of haplogroups α- and β-remains unknown; however, the most likely origin for each of them is a vast triangle stretched from Central Europe in the west through the Russian Plain to the east and to Levant to the south. Haplogroup B is descended from β-haplogroup (and not from haplogroup A, from which it is very distant, and separated by as much as 123,000 years of “lat- eral” mutational evolution) likely migrated to Africa after 46,000 ybp. The finding that the Europeoid haplogroups did not descend from “African” haplogroups A or B is supported by the fact that bearers of the Europeoid haplogroups, as well as all non-African haplogroups do not carry either SNPs M91, P97, M31, P82, M23, M114, P262, M32, M59, P289, P291, P102, M13, M171, M118 (haplogroup A and its subclades SNPs) or M60, M181, P90 (haplogroup B), as it was shown recently in “Walk through Y” FTDNA Project (the reference is incorporated therein) on several hundred people from various haplogroups.
I'll certainly listen to this with interest, thank you. The political capital invested in Out-of-Africa, however, doesn't necessarily make it wrong, however wrongly it may be used.
notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/02/09/out-of-factfrica
This is a most interesting subject, and I can't believe I've never heard of the Capoids.
The Ainu always seemed like Japanese Vikings to me. Some have been known wear horned helmets and handlebar mustaches.
Bigger, stronger, lighter skinned and more aggressive people coming from the north seem to be a recurring theme one might think. The Haida Indians are another good example of that.
The old time miners and road builders I have known in Nevada have told me that the "basko" folks who settled there were known to be quiet and considerate when left alone, and quick to demonstrate their ability to spill a man's guts out of his belly with one motion of the knives they habitually sharpen whilst tending their sheep flocks.
Tony. I will do a capoid article before the year is out. If it's not up by Thanksgiving, please bust my chops about it in an email—just don't send Vinnie and Salvie over...